17-10-2016, 10:20 PM
What is the difference between dreams,visions and revelations
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They all come from GOD and,are similarly the same but dream is greater than the rest.
Visions can be manipulated by pastors, revelations can be polluted and twisted by prophets but the dream you had or revealed to you,directly can't be manipulated and twisted,and mind you don't need to see that prophet, pastor, minister of God to dream,you know??
And yes, dreams swallow them all because you can live,survive without visions/revelations from that pastor but you may not be able to have any sense of spiritual/physical purpose without Dreams because it's a symbol of God's closeness/personal revelationship with you that no man can break.
Note : God is a God of individuals/personality.
Bible ref : Joel 2:28.
Bless you.
Visions can be manipulated by pastors, revelations can be polluted and twisted by prophets but the dream you had or revealed to you,directly can't be manipulated and twisted,and mind you don't need to see that prophet, pastor, minister of God to dream,you know??
And yes, dreams swallow them all because you can live,survive without visions/revelations from that pastor but you may not be able to have any sense of spiritual/physical purpose without Dreams because it's a symbol of God's closeness/personal revelationship with you that no man can break.
Note : God is a God of individuals/personality.
Bible ref : Joel 2:28.
Bless you.
18-10-2016, 08:16 AM
I used to dream alot but lately since I join this ministry my dream life has gone cold.its like Im under attack for seeking knowledge.i dream and I don't remember when I wake in the morning.but I can remember dreams I had last yr.is this good?
No, it's not good. Infact it's not a good sign.
The devil,knowing that you now have a platform where your dreams, messages from God can be interpreted hence exposing their works and evil agenda decided to manipulate your spiritual/physical memory so that you won't remember the message the lord is trying to pass.
These they have done so that you won't expose them,you would be caught unaware nor conscious of the plan of God for you or what God is warning or telling you about.
Solution :
Joel 2:28, 7times.
Psalm 19,7times.
Psalm 8.
Prayer :
• Every spirit of spiritual/physical memory eraser robbing me of my dreams,manipulating my heaven's --run mad & die by fire!!!
• I open my spiritual consciousness, understanding, open by fire--in the name of jesus!
• Any thing in my life disposing & erasing my dreams memory, come out & die!
Bless u
The devil,knowing that you now have a platform where your dreams, messages from God can be interpreted hence exposing their works and evil agenda decided to manipulate your spiritual/physical memory so that you won't remember the message the lord is trying to pass.
These they have done so that you won't expose them,you would be caught unaware nor conscious of the plan of God for you or what God is warning or telling you about.
Solution :
Joel 2:28, 7times.
Psalm 19,7times.
Psalm 8.
Prayer :
• Every spirit of spiritual/physical memory eraser robbing me of my dreams,manipulating my heaven's --run mad & die by fire!!!
• I open my spiritual consciousness, understanding, open by fire--in the name of jesus!
• Any thing in my life disposing & erasing my dreams memory, come out & die!
Bless u
27-05-2017, 12:50 PM
This message is also relevant to me and helpful. May God increase u in all areas as u increase others IJN.
Sir,
To the best of my knowledge spirits don't die(pls correct me if wrong ) and I therefore feel that the spirit at work addressed here :
( 1. spiritual/physical memory eraser, 2. robber me of my dreams, 3. Manipulators of my heaven's) --can run mad but can not die.
Also are we(sons of God) not supposed to give direct instruction/command to the spirit to go somewhere like d desert or bottomless pit?
Sometimes it comes to my mind when I pray at night b4 sleeping and I pray that God should please surrounding my dream Kingdom with an edge of fire. Is this really appropriate? Do I av a dream environment, personalised, demarcated.
Is there any connection between our physical memory and spiritual memory i.e. If u av partial memory loss physically, will u be unable to recall dreams?
Pls don't mind my curiosity. Why do we need to repeat d Psalms over and over like 7times?
Pls help my knowledge and understanding.
God bless
Sir,
To the best of my knowledge spirits don't die(pls correct me if wrong ) and I therefore feel that the spirit at work addressed here :
( 1. spiritual/physical memory eraser, 2. robber me of my dreams, 3. Manipulators of my heaven's) --can run mad but can not die.
Also are we(sons of God) not supposed to give direct instruction/command to the spirit to go somewhere like d desert or bottomless pit?
Sometimes it comes to my mind when I pray at night b4 sleeping and I pray that God should please surrounding my dream Kingdom with an edge of fire. Is this really appropriate? Do I av a dream environment, personalised, demarcated.
Is there any connection between our physical memory and spiritual memory i.e. If u av partial memory loss physically, will u be unable to recall dreams?
Pls don't mind my curiosity. Why do we need to repeat d Psalms over and over like 7times?
Pls help my knowledge and understanding.
God bless
27-05-2017, 01:29 PM
These are instructions given and led by the holy spirit(the lord). It's doesn't have to be questioned or understood by anyone not even another man of God, and that's why I was called as an Oracle of God.
God speaks and uses his prophets and ministers to them individually and according to how he wishes or their understanding.
Elijah, elisha,paul, Peter et al all are prophets of God but God ministers to them and used them individually and according to their anointing.
It's a sin to question how God ministers or uses his prophet as such can provoke God. When you do that you question their anointing and the manifestation of God and grace upon their lives.
Second question ;
I can see you spirit craves for many answers but be wary as being quick to listen is better than being quick to act. Meaning, you subconscious is mixing and comparing science and man made knowledge to with the things of the spirit.
Yes, the Body, Spirit and soul are one but have nothing in common as without one the spirit of man is incomplete even though they have nothing in common as the flesh causes man to sin but the spirit detest sin and the flesh. But without the flesh/man the spirit can not manifest in the physical. That is, without the flesh the spirit has no use in the physical because without it you have no need to see vision/dream because the spirit itself represent the spirit realm.
Bless u
God speaks and uses his prophets and ministers to them individually and according to how he wishes or their understanding.
Elijah, elisha,paul, Peter et al all are prophets of God but God ministers to them and used them individually and according to their anointing.
It's a sin to question how God ministers or uses his prophet as such can provoke God. When you do that you question their anointing and the manifestation of God and grace upon their lives.
Second question ;
I can see you spirit craves for many answers but be wary as being quick to listen is better than being quick to act. Meaning, you subconscious is mixing and comparing science and man made knowledge to with the things of the spirit.
Yes, the Body, Spirit and soul are one but have nothing in common as without one the spirit of man is incomplete even though they have nothing in common as the flesh causes man to sin but the spirit detest sin and the flesh. But without the flesh/man the spirit can not manifest in the physical. That is, without the flesh the spirit has no use in the physical because without it you have no need to see vision/dream because the spirit itself represent the spirit realm.
Bless u
Sir, please i would like to ask, isn't it possible that a pastor/prophet prays to cause someone to dream certain dreams without the person's awareness of the prayer since it's possible to cause someone to have certain visions/ revelations?
27-05-2017, 02:10 PM
First:
Thanks for prompt response sir.
It's a sin to question how God ministers or uses his prophet as such can provoke God. When you do that you question their anointing and the manifestation of God and grace upon their lives.
I am very sorry sir that my questions came out like I was questioning ur annointing and grace , I sincerely just seek to understand. I ask for forgiveness sir.
I av gone thru many of d responses to questions in this forum, and I av been impressed. That is why I felt free to ask. My questions are for knowledge sake. You got it right that my heart has many questions. I just want to be loaded with d right knowledge. Again, I am sorry sir and may God forgive sin.
Second :
'The devil,knowing that you now have a platform where your dreams, messages from God can be interpreted hence exposing their works and evil agenda decided to manipulate your spiritual/physical memory so that you won't remember the message the lord is trying to pass.
Visions can be manipulated by pastors, revelations can be polluted and twisted by prophets but the dream you had or revealed to you,directly can't be manipulated and twisted,and mind you don't need to see that prophet, pastor, minister of God to dream'
Form the above sir, I av come to the realisation that dream is the most accurate personal means of communication from God(like downloading). The knowledge can't be manipulated but can be forgotten. So the power over d dream is for it to be forgotten, not distorted.
Please is my take away correct.
Thanks Sir.
Thanks for prompt response sir.
It's a sin to question how God ministers or uses his prophet as such can provoke God. When you do that you question their anointing and the manifestation of God and grace upon their lives.
I am very sorry sir that my questions came out like I was questioning ur annointing and grace , I sincerely just seek to understand. I ask for forgiveness sir.
I av gone thru many of d responses to questions in this forum, and I av been impressed. That is why I felt free to ask. My questions are for knowledge sake. You got it right that my heart has many questions. I just want to be loaded with d right knowledge. Again, I am sorry sir and may God forgive sin.
Second :
'The devil,knowing that you now have a platform where your dreams, messages from God can be interpreted hence exposing their works and evil agenda decided to manipulate your spiritual/physical memory so that you won't remember the message the lord is trying to pass.
Visions can be manipulated by pastors, revelations can be polluted and twisted by prophets but the dream you had or revealed to you,directly can't be manipulated and twisted,and mind you don't need to see that prophet, pastor, minister of God to dream'
Form the above sir, I av come to the realisation that dream is the most accurate personal means of communication from God(like downloading). The knowledge can't be manipulated but can be forgotten. So the power over d dream is for it to be forgotten, not distorted.
Please is my take away correct.
Thanks Sir.
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Sir, please i would like to ask, isn't it possible that a pastor/prophet prays to cause someone to dream certain dreams without the person's awareness of the prayer since it's possible to cause someone to have certain visions/ revelations?
That's rather manipulation.
Some demonic and evil pastors/prophets do that but that's not God's idea. As our God is a God of individuals and loves to relate and communicate with us individually ,because on the day of judgment it's every man for himself. Real men of God, pastors/prophets are meant to train people to be self made, reliance in Christ and in God so that they can stand for themselves on the day of judgment.
It's true, pastors/prophets can cause people to dream true prayer/spiritual intervention or intercession but not in like manner you put it as no man of God has the right/power to influence God as to when such person should dream or what to see in the realm of the spirit but GOD except such men of God are under the influence of evil powers(and there are many of them/such out there now). It's God who determines what you should see, dream, or encounter in the realm of the spirit.
Above all, God loves us individually and longs to have a strong and unbroken relationship with US as one and as his creation.
Are you OK?
Bless you.